The title of this post is a pun on
“Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!” from the Wizard of Oz
because I feel like I am tackling a lot of big scary things with this
post. Things I've been thinking a lot about -and things I have a lot
more thinking about to do. My opinions tend to evolve, and there is
always more to learn about any issue. So, please feel welcome to
comment. This post started as a comment to a friend's post, so I've
left it in that format. Obviously, it got way too long to post as
comment though. :)
ON FEMINISM
So, (deep breath) here some of the
thoughts I had while reading your post. I loved what you said about
womanhood -particularly, “What we should be fighting for as women
is mutual respect, and dignity in what we are and choose to be.”
This has so many wonderful implications. I also couldn't help
thinking of the “wear pants to church” thing that happened in
December. I think a lot of people mistook what that was actually
about for many of the women who participated. For me, (although I
missed church that day) it would have been about a lot of things, but
it would NOT have been about trying to take over Priesthood
responsibilities. It would NOT have been about trying to prove that
men and women are the same or have been given the same
responsibilities from God. It would have been about helping women
find a voice who feel like they have lost theirs in the church's male
hierarchy -particularly women who may have been wronged or ignored by
a priesthood holder in the past. It would have been about admitting
that these things happen and that members of the church (even our own
priesthood leaders) are not always perfect. It would have been about
helping women with doubts (or women who disagree with certain
statements or opinions from the general authorities – from the past
or present) find support and love and an answer that “it is okay to
have questions and to disagree with certain things –it does NOT
mean that you are a heretic who needs to leave the church.” It
would have been about opening a discussion about ways our “mormon
culture” -particularly in Utah- could be improved to be more
inclusive -more understanding. More willing to listen.
I think the idea that men and women
should be the same and should fulfill the same roles in the same ways
has been an enemy to feminism. I loved this article called Why
Women Still Can't Have It All written by Anne-Marie Slaughter
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/07/why-women-still-cant-have-it-all/309020/
She talked about trying to balance motherhood with a high-power,
government job. Because the job was so un-family-friendly, she ended
up switching to a less prestigious position in order to spend more
time with her teenage sons who needed her. It made me sad, because
she is just the type of responsible, family-oriented person that I
would want in government. It made me sad because I wish there were
more female voices in government, but, since the current
male-dominated system dictates that women should fill these positions in the same manner that men do (i.e. long hours, long commute, little flexibility),
women are often pushed out. Do you see what I mean? Maybe there are
some implications here for the article that you read about women
serving in the military. Maybe there are ways for women to get
involved -to play an equal part- without being drafted. Ways that
would be more workable for them -more suited to their
responsibilities and natures. After all, isn't that what happened
during the last great wars? Women kept things running at home and
cared for the injured. That said, if a woman wants to fight in the
army -or be a general in the army, for that matter- I say that she
should. And I think there are things we could do as a society to make
that career choice an easier one for her -starting by giving her the
same level of respect while acknowledging that she may do things
differently or have different demands placed upon her than a man in
that same position would. Some people would say this is an
anti-feminism thing to say. In that case, their breed of feminism
isn't the same as mine.
FREEDOM AS IT RELATES TO GUN CONTROL
So, to switch topics, back to
the second half of your post about gun control. (Another deep
breath). The main thing that your post made me think about was this
very important idea of “choice.” I think this idea gets
over-simplified at times. The way I see it, it is not just either
“we either choose to let you have a gun” or “we take your
choice away by taking your gun.” I think there is so much
“gray area” between those two extremes. For instance, when a new
tax comes into effect, you no longer get to “choose” what to do
with that money. However, you do “choose” to live in America, you
do get to “choose” your representatives in government and you
hope that their choice (that the tax is necessary or worthwhile)
would also represent your choice and would be in the best interest of
our society. Our representative government
chooses, and then it becomes law. That's the pattern. For
example, we chose that we would not tolerate the negative affects of
drugs on our society and, therefore, we cannot use certain drugs
legally or must have a prescription to use others. New gun
legislation would fit this same pattern. We determine that we will
not tolerate the negative affects of guns -or certain types of guns-
on our society, and we create new legislation. It probably wouldn't
be, “you cannot choose to have a gun” but, “if you choose to
have a gun, you must undergo regular background checks, pay a
gun-tax, or some other regulation." Is this a breach of freedom and
choice? I would say yes. But so are many other things. I cannot
“choose” to drive without a license. I cannot “choose” to go
100 mph on the interstate. I cannot “choose” to go through
airport without getting the full body pat-down. And, as an extreme
example, a young man cannot “choose” to ignore the draft.
I sympathize with the “Ron Paul”
view of less government = more freedom because I think it is true in
the purest sense of the word “freedom.” But I don't want to live
in that country. And I am confused when some breaches of freedom
(e.g. our taxes paying for public education) seem so much more
acceptable than other would-be breaches of freedom (e.g. our taxes
paying for public healthcare) when they both happen by this same
democratic process. We determine the level of violence we will
tolerate, the level of inequality or injustice that we will tolerate,
the level of abuses among the easily victimized that we will
tolerate, and we act. You could say we are trading certain freedoms,
yes, but isn't this the nature of civilization? We try to elevate our
society. We try to preserve it. I do not believe that a free-market
system, left unchecked, would accomplish this. You could argue that
our current system is not accomplishing this either. I respect that
opinion. I also respect the opinion that more free-market, less
government/less regulation would be for the best. What concerns me is
when these opinions and judgments seem to be made primarily along
along party-lines -rather than through careful reason and thought.
If someone believes that paying more taxes/going into more
national debt is worth it in order to build an enormous national
military but not worth it in order to help fund college educations,
they should be able to explain why. They should really think about
why it is worth trading freedoms in one instance and not in the
other.
Because I am in favor of stricter gun
regulation, does not at all mean that I am not concerned about
freedom. I am very concerned about our freedoms. I am concerned that
our very democratic process is under threat from the extremely
influential, often extremely wealthy, powers that be. I think it is
fascinating that there is so much discussion of freedom as it it
relates to gun control, but hardly any as it relates Citizens United, a Supreme Court ruling that allows for limitless, anonymous campaign
financing. When our elected officials are beholden to those who
financed their campaign, what kinds of decisions do we think they are
going to make once in office? The amount of money you have seems to
increasingly determine the amount of influence that you have in our
current political system. I am very concerned with how this affects
our democracy and our freedoms. I see the downfall of America
stemming from this type of corruption, greed, and arrogance.
MORE ON GUN CONTROL
But back to gun control. I also think
there is a fundamental difference between telling someone whether or
not they have the right to carry a gun versus whether or not they
have a right to be feminine. Both are rights, but carrying a gun is a
much heavier right. It's a lot like having a driver's license. If
someone's vision is inadequate or they have a history of x-number of
past offenses, they can't carry a license to drive. If someone's
mental health is inadequate or they have a criminal record, they
can't carry a gun. Some responsibilities and rights seem to need to
be regulated. I guess you could argue that carrying a gun is a right
whereas carrying a driver's license is a privilege...but that just
seems backwards to me.
I think you brought up some other
really great points. I also don't believe that stricter regulation
will stop the violence. But I do hope that such laws would decrease
it. Of course the die-hard criminals will still commit horrific and
violent crimes, but it seems to me that we should at least make it
harder for them to do so. There are not many weapons that will kill
people as rapidly or as effectively as an assault rifle. The Oklahoma
bomber was very effective at killing a lot of people, be he expended
great resources to do so. He had to create the bomb (not an entirely
easy thing to do since dynamite is illegal) and then I believe he
also tested it in advance. Now, contrast that with the Virginia Tech
shooter. He opened a couple of credit card accounts that were being
promoted on-campus (each with a $500 dollar credit limit), bought the
assault weapon and a bunch of ammo, and stated shooting. It doesn't
seem like the current system could have made it much easier for him
than that. Maybe he would have gone to great lengths to obtain a
powerful weapon even if we had better regulation in place, but maybe
not. Maybe he simply wouldn't have had the resources, perseverance,
or intelligence to do so without getting caught. The likelihood of
him having been able to commit a crime of that magnitude with better
gun regulation in place almost certainly goes down. I think this same
logic applies in situations where the crime is not premeditated. If
two guys start fighting in a bar, someone is likely to get hurt.
Tables, glasses, even knives may be thrown. But the likelihood of
fatalities occurring from this fight (to those fighting and to the
bystanders) is much lower if guns are not involved. I also think
suicide rates go down in countries with fewer guns for this reason.
People who try to over-dose are often unsuccessful. Guns are very
effective at what they do.
How we protect ourselves is an
important question. In many instances, there are other ways to be
protected. In an up-close attack, I would think that pepper spray
would be pretty effective. Better home security systems probably help
a great deal against intruders. Against the government...well, all I
can say about that is that the government currently has some pretty
impressive weapons on their side... Also, I seriously question the
gun wielder’s judgment when it comes to declaring what actually
constitutes tyranny. But still, what do we do when a criminal has a gun
(because it will still inevitably happen, no matter how strict the regulation)? It is an important question
and not easily answered. I just don't think we solve the problem of
guns with more guns. After all, isn't that the situation we currently have in America (i.e. TONS of guns and ammo in circulation)? It doesn't seem to be working.
I also wonder about the need for guns in a post-apocalyptic scenario.
And I also need to think about the Mexico issue that you bring up.
I agree with you when you say that what
the world needs most is people making little choices every day to do
the right thing. For most of us (myself included), I think that's
where our lives have the greatest impact. But I also think the world
needs its “movers and the shakers” -the suffragettes and
abolitionists of yesterday. Where would we be without them? We
recently watched the PBS series called The Abolitionists, and I
was very impressed with it. William Lloyd Garrison preached and
practiced pacifism, but he never stopped sharing his voice. He never
stopped printing and speaking out against slavery. Many people from
his time thought he was a radical -an extremest- and frowned upon his
outspokenness -even those who were anti-slavery in their hearts. And yet, his influence in ending slavery is too great to measure. My
point is, I think there is something in many people that
reflexively dislikes “activism” and I think we should be wary of
that attitude.
Thanks for your comment :) I think you are right on a lot of things, I like your ideas on feminism, and the point of my post was bring up the point that it has been fought for wrong. We definitely need good women in government and the army, and if that is what they want to do they should be able to do (that was the whole choice thing in my post)but i like what you said about it not necessarily being the exact same as a man.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comments on gun control as well. I think there is a lot that needs to be thought about. I think for the most part I have a problem trusting the government. I don't really feel that any, or at least very few (both major parties included) have the best interest of the nation at their heart. There are so many "gaddianton robbers" (not just in government, I don't mean to say that everyone in the government is bad, this is an over-generalization and I know that) that want power, fame, money, standing, that they forget what is really important. (I don't know how to fix this, except just do my best and try to vote good people in, but it is hard with the media these days to actually KNOW what a person is/stands for and what is actually truth).
I agree that a stricter process for getting guns seems to be the best logical answer, especially for all the spur of the moment offenses... trading freedom for safety, i guess in this instance, but "normal" people go crazy all the time, a life instance can change how people think and ration and react. So someone who was fine when they purchased the gun, may not be in 10 years... I don't see a solution for that. How does the government choose what is "normal" and what is not... that is something that worries me. Obviously mental illness and criminal record... but what else? that is a tough question.
I also think you bring up a great point that the government has lots of big weapons that we do not, making the original intent of the 2nd amendment a little harder. So what to do about that? I don't know, but I have been to too many countries where they fear the government, they fear for their lives and family, and that is not good either... Or the other side, where violence is so out of control from gangs, individuals and such that even with strict gun laws and heavy security systems they still fear and hate others. but I don't have a solution for either potential. (or if you noticed any solutions really.) I don't really like the phrase "I just don't think we solve the problem of guns with more guns." (mostly the guns with more guns part) I think that this phrase has been what escalated this whole situation. This implies that not selling any guns is the answer, or taking all guns away is the answer. Which may or may not be true. But good people with guns might be answer, or selling with more restrictions making them harder to get. (that is more guns, but less too.) To me that phrase is too over simplified.
I really believe that what is wrong is that life and people are loosing value in society. There is no fear of consequences, people aren't taught to value others. We live in a very selfish, self-centered world. We need more love and kindness. More good mothers and fathers, loving their children. More tolerance, more virtue... etc...
I think there needs to be activists too. I think that like you said we need people willing to rally others to just causes, we need them. (I am just not good at being one because I feel like the guy on Fiddler on the Roof "you are also right") :)
I wish we didn't live so far apart so we could talk about these things Laurie. I don't agree with you on everything, but I enjoy reading your thoughts and what you have to say.
ReplyDeleteThanks Kyla! I wish we were closer too!
ReplyDeleteBecky, thanks for reading, and I see what you mean about the "I don't think we solve the problem of guns with more guns" thing being an over-simplification. It was a reactionary thing to write -in reaction the statements like the NRA's that we should put armed military people in all our public schools when that is hardly a simple solution. I understand that taking all the guns away is also not a simple solution though. What I should have said was that I don't think putting more guns into circulation or making them easier to obtain is the answer. Like I said in my post, that seems to be the situation we currently have in America.
ReplyDeleteI also sympathize with your feelings about not trusting the government. I think that the way we protect ourselves is by being careful about who we put into office and then being very critical of their actions once they are in. It is by finding and spreading the truth -not by stockpiling machine guns. As you point out, the truth is not so easy to find though -especially while things are so bitterly divided along party lines (I think the option on the ballot to vote straight along party lines is a very bad thing). I think we need to fight to keep things transparent; once you can follow the money-trail and see who stands to lose or gain money from a certain proposition, a lot of things become clear. This is why all of the big-money, anonymous campaign spending makes me very nervous. I don't think much is going to come of this current gun debate in Washington (Obama is NOT going to take all of our guns away -just tighten up regulations --if he can even get that much passed). It increasingly seems to me like one big, emotionally-charged distraction from more important issues. I see corruption as the real enemy, and wish I saw more going on to fight it.
Laurie, I enjoyed reading your thoughts. I can tell you have put time into trying to think things over, and I like your openness to think about things. The issues of greed, corruption, lack of transparency, etc., are all important issues. Nice work!
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